Chinese space firm unintentionally launches its new rocket

Some of these videos show the rocket rising behind what appear to be apartment towers. While I'm sure the perspective makes those buildings appear closer to the launch then they really are, they are still far too close for this kind of work. Combined with videos of Long March rockets falling on villages (spewing toxic propellant), just how long will it be before there is a major launch accident in China?
 
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. Combined with videos of Long March rockets falling on villages (spewing toxic propellant), just how long will it be before there is a major launch accident in China?
I thought there's been plenty, but reports/witnesses/evidence on them end up quickly cleaned up. If you google "Chinese rocket stage falls on Chinese village", there's plenty of hits over the last decade. Many with no injuries, fancy that. What luck.
 
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Some of these videos show the rocket rising behind what appear to be apartment towers. While I'm sure the perspective makes those buildings appear closer to the launch then they really are, they are still far too close for this kind of work. Combined with videos of Long March rockets falling on villages (spewing toxic propellant), just how long will it be before there is a major launch accident in China?
I believe the test stand facility is around 2-3km away from the urban area.

A couple of videos of it with commentary and I think they are right, you can hear a lot of glass shattering when the thing goes KABOOM upon crashing. Hopefully no one on the ground was injured or killed. I just hope any personnel on site had actual bunkers to shelter in.

Also to add, Soctt Manley speculated that likely it was a failure of the structural body and not the hold downs themselves that went, launching the rocket. That seems like a really, really, really bad oversight and chasing minimum weight to try to get to the payload capability they need. Which doesn't seem very compatible with reuse if the structure is that thin.
 
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Scott Manley had a good one when he was covering this - something to the effect of "rocket science is hard, but it seems like they failed to think about bolt science"

Yeah, I'd be willing to bet they cheaped out on the launch stand. "eh, that doesn't need to be aerospace grade, we can just use whatever".
 
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My guess wasn't so much that they bolted it to a thin part, I bet an engine energetically blew up on the ground which damaged the components they'd attached the hold downs to. Given that all the other engines died in rapid succession on the way up, it seemed damaged even when it slipped the surly bonds on earth.
Being thin isn't a reuse problem, blowing up certainly is.
 
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Some of these videos show the rocket rising behind what appear to be apartment towers. While I'm sure the perspective makes those buildings appear closer to the launch then they really are, they are still far too close for this kind of work. Combined with videos of Long March rockets falling on villages (spewing toxic propellant), just how long will it be before there is a major launch accident in China?
There already was, in 1996. Long March 3B launched sideways and exploded in a nearby village, allegedly killing at least a hundred people if not more, according to US personnel on site (it was supposed to be a commercial launch of an US satellite). The disaster and its scrutiny led to the subsequent US ITAR restrictions.
 
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There already was, in 1996. Long March 3B launched sideways and exploded in a nearby village, allegedly killing at least a hundred people if not more, according to US personnel on site (it was supposed to be a commercial launch of an US satellite). The disaster and its scrutiny led to the subsequent US ITAR restrictions.
Interesting!

This was the third launch failure in 38 months involving the PRC's Long March series of rockets carrying U.S.-built satellite payloads. It also was the first commercial launch using the new Long March 3B. [...]

The activities of the Western aerospace engineers who participated on the review team - the Independent Review Committee - sparked allegations of violations of U.S. export control regulations. The review team was accused of performing an unlicensed defense service for the PRC that resulted in the improvement of the reliability of the PRC's military rockets and ballistic missiles.

 
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There was a "nice" first hand account of it from Bruce Campbell, one of the US techs witnessing it:
 
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oh boy. I wonder if the early launch detection systems lost their cool.

Yeah the US constellation of early warning launch detection sats would have seen the IR plume. Not saying we were moments from WWIII but I am sure there was a "what the fuck is that?" in the space force control room for the SBIRS constellation..

All nuclear powers share things like rocket launch schedules to avoid any misunderstanding but not sure we even share what are suppose to be rocket not-launches.
 
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